Wednesday, 14 March 2018

When the new became old

Who could have imagined that there would be a day when making realscale Space Marines would be considered oldschool? Ha! But here I am, for the day has arrived!

With the new Primaris Space Marines out there in the market it would be rather silly converting old pieces to make realscale marines out of them... And that is exactly what I'm up to :D

Well, first of all, a little catch up, just in case you don't know what the hell I am talking about. In the early times of Rogue Trader, Space Marines were regular troopers, just with elite gear and training (oversimplified explanation). But with the upcoming of 2nd Edition, their background changed enormously and they became more powerful, genetically enhanced monk warriors, giants among regular men, blah blah (kind of oversimplified again).
Unfortunately, the rules never changed accordingly and, while they became true elite among the armies of the Warhammer 40,000 universe, they never reflected that demigod-like spirit the fluff talked about (of course, Games Workshop wanted to sell models; a five men army would not be quite a wise movement for that purpose). Nor the minis reflected that, Space Marines models being regular human sized. Meh.

I like the concept of giant ironclad warriors causing mayhem all over. In fact, if you browse through the blog, you'll see that my liking of the 'truescale' movement (i.e., converting minis so they matched the background) is not new at all. You can also see that my thoughts on this go through the 'movie marines' movement, i.e., giving them according rules and making real monsters out of them. You can have a look at the battle we run on my pal Keyan Sark's blog (Spanish only, but I trust you'll find many other stuff of your liking there).

In recent times GW have released the new Primaris range, with larger minis. Finally proper scaled Space Marines. I don't care much about the new fluff anymore, but I understand they are a new brand of marines blah blah whatever. For me they are just the Marines as they should have been since long time ago. I'll get some of them, sure, but... (guilty voice) I have amassed so many bits through the years in order to create realscale Space Marines that I have to put them into use!

So, honouring this blog's name, here you have an experiment for a proper oldschool realscale Space Marine (weeee!)

My starting point will be Marneus Calgar's terminator armour legs:

All the Ultramarines iconography has been removed
I made a couple of experiments for the torso. I tried to replicate what I had done years ago and use a regular torso enlarged with greenstuff. But it didn't work that fine on these legs. I finally used a Terminator armour torso:

Samba dancer realscale space marine
I have made the decision to dismantle my Raptors army to build a realscale force. Let's face it, I have too many marines (imagine how many if even I can say that). I want to keep my RT Ultramarines army (proper Rogue Trader) and a realscale army. But I have no justification for an additional 'regular marines' army. It's been hard, but I made up my mind. No way back!

So, using the Raptors Command Squad bits, this was my general idea:

The samba mojo has suddenly gone
More or lees the final form
Now I had to pick an army. I discarded Ultramarines as I was keeping that army. I seriously considered to paint them as Raptors again, as I like the military looking. But I finally decided not to do so. I had already done that project, I had to move on and do something different.
After giving it some thoughts, I chose the Space Sharks. Or the Carcharodons, as they are officially known nowadays. The grey dominant colour was not too garish and, according to their official background, their aesthetics are of Maori inspiration, which definitely tipped the balance.

So Carcharodons it is!

I tried to combine WH40K with Maori symbols
You can read Whetū on the greave. It's Maori for 'Star' (please, any Maori speaker correct me!). The front shield bears a Koru, a symbol of regeneration and new beginnings.

I wanted the armour to look worn and dirty
Ururoa is Maori for 'white shark', the Carcharodon
That symbol is Moana, i.e., 'Sea'. Seemed adequate for a sea-oriented culture. I blame Disney anyway
The patterns on the cloak are spear heads and shark teeth -Maori warrior symbols
Alongside a regular sized Space Marine
So this is how my new crazy project starts, a realscale Carcharodons army. I am aware that not all my fellow oldhammerers will like this, but I hope you will indulge my soft spot :D

I have some plans to give this Captain some companions. A few Primaris, right, but some other crazy ideas are lurking my mind like sharks. Like Space Sharks...

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    1. Thank you! I have to implement some silly ideas, I don't know how are they going to turn out...

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  2. Wow! I really love this mate!! MORE PLEASE!!

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    1. Thank you! I have some crazy plans I'm starting to unfold, let's cross fingers!

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  3. Hey that is really great! The pose and the weapons are perfect for the secret sons of Angron.

    Like you I have also been thinking about casting off my "regular" marines... but I have so many...

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    1. Haha, thanks! The first step is to admit you have so many! :D

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    1. Thank you! I've put some time on planning how to add details without going too far; but I have ideas for symbols I hope I'll be using in future minis...

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  5. By Krom, you did a splendid job on that cape. Seriously. That is some beautiful freehand, Suber. Maori iconography is a great match with your talents.
    I'm glad you did a comparative shot of the old and new Marines. Like you, I was always a little perplexed when I was younger as to why 10 space orks were a match against about 8 marines. Not exactly super soldiers.

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    1. I find Maori and Polynesian iconography (and culture)really fascinating. They are like quite literally my antipodes so it's hard to find anything more exotic for me :D
      About super Marines, I had real fun using the 'movie marines' rules; quite cinematic and fun in their own way. I hope I can play those again!

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  6. Not having much modeling skill I plan to use the Primaris as the base for Truescale marines, but use regular marine weaponry and helmets. That will probably tax my skills. What I want to do is use the Primaris stat line with the regular marines' weapon options (although Interceptors are nice the way they are). That way I figure the marines will be the badasses they're supposed to be (also figure that's where the next edition will take them). Just a matter of getting the opponent to agree to it.

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    1. I concur, using Primarines will save a lot of work, but there are many ways of customise them. Quite an interesting way of development!

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  7. Ha ha – awesome! Space Sharks are a great combo of new and old; just like this model. Looking forward to seeing this project develop, Suber.

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    1. Well, of course I've been following your work on realscale through the years, and it's highly inspirational! I hope I'll bring some more anytime soon.

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  8. I like your approach to the new/old paradox. Thanks for the step by step conversion, very helpful

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    1. Thank you! This one has been in my mind for some time now, it's liberating to finally have it finished!

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  9. It certainly looks like you've put in a lot of work into the mini. But it's worth it as the results look amazing Suber. I'm not sure if I'll ever have the patience for a proper conversion as most of mine are pseudo-conversions i.e. paint-wise only lol XD :)

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    1. Haha, thank you! It's been terribly fun, and I really wanted to break the Euro-centric point of view and add some cultural variety in the imagery. Well, at least to certain degree, within the relative freedom WH40K allows...

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  10. Another most wonderful conversion, but the paintjob you did on him is fantastic as well. Especially the freehand!

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    1. Thank you! I find Maori an Polynesian art fascinating, I'll try to explore it a little bit during the project :)

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